← 2008 DRAFT PLAYER PROFILE R6 · #200 OVERALL · LB

Joe Mays

Drafted by PHI · GM Tom Heckert · North Dakota St.

All NFL teams

Full-career context

These totals follow Joe Mays across every NFL team. Draft credit is separated below for each team that selected him.

Games played78
Games started38
Weighted career AV18
Pro Bowls0
AP1 All-Pro0
Career seasons8

Accountability by draft event

What each drafting team received

2008 · Round 6 · #200

PHI draft credit

GM Tom Heckert

Team games13
Team starts1
On-team AV1
On-team PB / AP10 / 0
Terrible-1.32 contribution31st of 34 picks for this GM

Games: direct team-season record. Starts: direct team-season record.

Long-career hit

Joe Mays became a 8-season, 78-game NFL player after going #200. The retained-value model still ranks him 31st of 34 for Tom Heckert because PHI only got 13 of those games.

His retained-value contribution score (opportunity plus quality plus recognition, with related outcomes collapsed inside each bucket) is -1.32. This is a per-pick accountability metric, separate from Tom Heckert's leaderboard composite θ.

Full-career context prevents this from being labeled as a bad talent pick: the negative model score is about retained team value, not whether the draft identified an NFL-caliber player.

The walkthrough below shows which bucket carried the pick: playing time, value quality, or league honors.

Opportunity
Did he earn the field?
Games played
13
on drafting team · 78 full-career
Games started
1
on drafting team · 38 full-career
Snap-z
0.0
0 modeled seasons
Quality
Was that time valuable?
On-team AV
1
modeled; full weighted AV 18
AV / 1k snaps
snap-era only
AV-rate z
position-year adjusted quality
Recognition
Did the league notice?
Pro Bowls
0
all on drafting team
AP1 All-Pro
0 AP1
all on drafting team · AP2 context 0
All-Decade
0
context only

Did this pick move Tom Heckert's grade?

The first chart removes the time axis: every Tom Heckert pick is sorted by retained contribution across opportunity, quality, and recognition. Joe Mays totals -1.32. The second chart breaks that same contribution into the seasons when the evidence arrived. Opportunity and quality can move separately, which keeps high-snap, low-AV profiles from looking cleaner than they are.

Aggregate contribution by player

-2-10+1+253. McCoy#53 · LeSean McCoy · aggregate +2.07McCoy +2.1162. Celek#162 · Brent Celek · aggregate +1.69168. Gaither#168 · Omar Gaither · aggregate +0.7399. Jean-Gilles#99 · Max Jean-Gilles · aggregate +0.7171. Gocong#71 · Chris Gocong · aggregate +0.68230. Fokou#230 · Moise Fokou · aggregate +0.6387. Bradley#87 · Stewart Bradley · aggregate +0.44204. Ramsey#204 · LaJuan Ramsey · aggregate +0.15157. Harris#157 · Victor Harris · aggregate +0.0747. Laws#47 · Trevor Laws · aggregate -0.05236. Ilaoa#236 · Nate Ilaoa · aggregate -0.11109. Avant#109 · Jason Avant · aggregate -0.15201. Barksdale#201 · Rashad Barksdale · aggregate -0.16153. Ingram#153 · Cornelius Ingram · aggregate -0.2457. Abiamiri#57 · Victor Abiamiri · aggregate -0.26159. Gaddis#159 · C.J. Gaddis · aggregate -0.30147. Bloom#147 · Jeremy Bloom · aggregate -0.33131. Ikegwuonu#131 · Jack Ikegwuonu · aggregate -0.4319. Maclin#19 · Jeremy Maclin · aggregate -0.48230. Dunlap#230 · King Dunlap · aggregate -0.4990. Hunt#90 · Tony Hunt · aggregate -0.50159. Tupou#159 · Fenuki Tupou · aggregate -0.59194. Gibson#194 · Brandon Gibson · aggregate -0.6236. Kolb#36 · Kevin Kolb · aggregate -0.6714. Bunkley#14 · Brodrick Bunkley · aggregate -0.75213. Fanaika#213 · Paul Fanaika · aggregate -0.78184. Gibson#184 · Mike Gibson · aggregate -0.8339. Justice#39 · Winston Justice · aggregate -0.9280. Smith#80 · Bryan Smith · aggregate -0.95109. McGlynn#109 · Mike McGlynn · aggregate -1.19200. Mays#200 · Joe Mays · aggregate -1.32Mays -1.3203. Studebaker#203 · Andy Studebaker · aggregate -1.5249. Jackson#49 · DeSean Jackson · aggregate -1.60117. Demps#117 · Quintin Demps · aggregate -2.18Demps -2.2

Incremental contribution by season

-12-10-8-6-4-20+22006 · LaJuan Ramsey · incremental +0.092006 · Omar Gaither · incremental +0.122006 · Max Jean-Gilles · incremental -0.032006 · Chris Gocong · incremental -0.062006 · Winston Justice · incremental -0.382006 · Jeremy Bloom · incremental -0.622006 · Brodrick Bunkley · incremental -0.692006 · Jason Avant · incremental -1.432007 · Stewart Bradley · incremental +0.022007 · Brent Celek · incremental +0.032007 · Max Jean-Gilles · incremental +0.082007 · LaJuan Ramsey · incremental +0.092007 · Jason Avant · incremental +0.202007 · Chris Gocong · incremental +0.372007 · Omar Gaither · incremental +0.392007 · Winston Justice · incremental -0.082007 · Kevin Kolb · incremental -0.082007 · Victor Abiamiri · incremental -0.112007 · Brodrick Bunkley · incremental -0.142007 · Nate Ilaoa · incremental -0.242007 · Rashad Barksdale · incremental -0.362007 · Tony Hunt · incremental -0.462007 · C.J. Gaddis · incremental -0.582008 · Trevor Laws · incremental +0.092008 · Jason Avant · incremental +0.222008 · Omar Gaither · incremental +0.322008 · Max Jean-Gilles · incremental +0.362008 · Stewart Bradley · incremental +0.362008 · Chris Gocong · incremental +0.392008 · Brent Celek · incremental +0.422008 · Victor Abiamiri · incremental -0.032008 · Winston Justice · incremental -0.032008 · Kevin Kolb · incremental -0.082008 · King Dunlap · incremental -0.112008 · Brodrick Bunkley · incremental -0.162008 · Joe Mays · incremental -0.212008 · Jack Ikegwuonu · incremental -0.282008 · Mike McGlynn · incremental -0.302008 · Tony Hunt · incremental -0.302008 · Mike Gibson · incremental -1.362008 · Bryan Smith · incremental -1.562008 · Andy Studebaker · incremental -2.412008 · Quintin Demps · incremental -2.752008 · DeSean Jackson · incremental -3.302009 · Victor Harris · incremental +0.052009 · Omar Gaither · incremental +0.102009 · Trevor Laws · incremental +0.102009 · LeSean McCoy · incremental +0.212009 · Moise Fokou · incremental +0.262009 · Max Jean-Gilles · incremental +0.262009 · Jason Avant · incremental +0.262009 · Chris Gocong · incremental +0.312009 · Brent Celek · incremental +0.692009 · King Dunlap · incremental -0.002009 · Brodrick Bunkley · incremental -0.122009 · DeSean Jackson · incremental -0.182009 · Victor Abiamiri · incremental -0.292009 · Kevin Kolb · incremental -0.312009 · Winston Justice · incremental -0.492009 · Jack Ikegwuonu · incremental -0.502009 · Cornelius Ingram · incremental -0.622009 · Quintin Demps · incremental -0.672009 · Fenuki Tupou · incremental -1.012009 · Brandon Gibson · incremental -1.022009 · Paul Fanaika · incremental -1.272009 · Jeremy Maclin · incremental -1.422009 · Joe Mays · incremental -1.832010 · Jeremy Maclin · incremental +0.152010 · Omar Gaither · incremental +0.162010 · LeSean McCoy · incremental +0.212010 · Jason Avant · incremental +0.222010 · Stewart Bradley · incremental +0.232010 · Max Jean-Gilles · incremental +0.392010 · Moise Fokou · incremental +0.452010 · Brent Celek · incremental +0.622010 · Brodrick Bunkley · incremental -0.052010 · Trevor Laws · incremental -0.102010 · King Dunlap · incremental -0.172010 · DeSean Jackson · incremental -0.182010 · Winston Justice · incremental -0.412010 · Kevin Kolb · incremental -0.562010 · Mike McGlynn · incremental -1.632011 · Jeremy Maclin · incremental +0.122011 · Jason Avant · incremental +0.252011 · Moise Fokou · incremental +0.292011 · Brent Celek · incremental +0.662011 · LeSean McCoy · incremental +1.592011 · King Dunlap · incremental -0.072011 · Winston Justice · incremental -0.072011 · DeSean Jackson · incremental -0.102011 · Trevor Laws · incremental -0.112012 · Jeremy Maclin · incremental +0.132012 · LeSean McCoy · incremental +0.132012 · Jason Avant · incremental +0.212012 · Brent Celek · incremental +0.582012 · DeSean Jackson · incremental -0.072012 · King Dunlap · incremental -0.332013 · Jason Avant · incremental +0.282013 · Brent Celek · incremental +0.602013 · LeSean McCoy · incremental +1.952013 · DeSean Jackson · incremental -0.102014 · Jeremy Maclin · incremental +0.152014 · LeSean McCoy · incremental +0.152014 · Brent Celek · incremental +0.582015 · Brent Celek · incremental +0.522016 · Brent Celek · incremental +0.322017 · Brent Celek · incremental +0.312019 · DeSean Jackson · incremental -0.022020 · DeSean Jackson · incremental -0.04Mays -0.2Smith -1.6Studebaker -2.4Demps -2.8Jackson -3.3Mays -1.8McGlynn -1.6McCoy +1.6McCoy +1.920068 players200715 players200821 players200923 players201015 players20119 players20126 players20134 players20143 players20151 player20161 player20171 player20191 player20201 player
Above expectationBelow expectationJoe MaysGM total -10.3Joe Mays by season -2.0

How much retained production did Joe Mays return vs. his slot?

Each mark below is one player's model value above slot. Light gray marks are slot-similar peers: LBs drafted within ±5 picks of Joe Mays since 2010 (14 players).The score is the retained production/value bucket from the pick-residual model: on-team AV plus AV-rate quality, adjusted for draft slot, position, and era. Opportunity snaps and league honors are excluded.

-0.50+0.5Model value above slot202. WilliamsJacquian Williams · model value +0.5205. MedranoKain Medrano · model value +0.1201. KingKobe King · model value +0.1197. HamiltonShaun Dion Hamilton · model value 0200. HomanRoss Homan · model value -0.1200. EgbuleEmeke Egbule · model value -0.1203. JacksonAndrew Jackson · model value -0.1203. BurneyAmari Burney · model value -0.1204. AchoEmmanuel Acho · model value -0.1204. MaluiaCassh Maluia · model value -0.3202. WeaverEvan Weaver · model value -0.3195. VallejoTanner Vallejo · model value -0.4195. ThomasJ.T. Thomas · model value -0.4196. BradleyShaun Bradley · model value -0.5200. MaysJoe Mays · model value -0.6-0.6
Joe MaysSlot-similar peers (14)

Cumulative value over time

Year-by-year running totals since draft. Left axis = games started. Right axis = honors (Pro Bowl / AP1 / AP2). Pre-2013 picks have no games-started line because that comes from per-game snap counts (not available for older players). Honors extend back to 1980.

'08'10'12'14'1501121324201Cumulative GSHonors count
Games started (cumulative) Pro Bowls AP1 All-Pro AP2 All-Pro

Full-career season history (8 scored seasons)

YearTeamGPGSSnapsSnap-zAVAV/snapPBAP1AP2
2008PHI200
2009PHI1111
2010DEN1252
2011DEN16126
2012DEN642
2013HOU1495930.3610.1
2014KC82202-0.829.9
2015LAC99187-0.915.3

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