← 2004 DRAFT PLAYER PROFILE R4 · #111 OVERALL · DB

Will Allen

Drafted by TB · GM Bruce Allen · Ohio St.

All NFL teams

Full-career context

These totals follow Will Allen across every NFL team. Draft credit is separated below for each team that selected him.

Games played176
Games started52
Weighted career AV24
Pro Bowls0
AP1 All-Pro0
Career seasons12

Accountability by draft event

What each drafting team received

2004 · Round 4 · #111

TB draft credit

GM Bruce Allen

Team games84
Team starts26
On-team AV14
On-team PB / AP10 / 0
Terrible-1.62 contribution45th of 47 picks for this GM

Games: direct team-season record. Starts: direct team-season record.

Long-career hit

Will Allen became a 12-season, 176-game NFL player after going #111. The retained-value model still ranks him 45th of 47 for Bruce Allen because TB only got 84 of those games.

His retained-value contribution score (opportunity plus quality plus recognition, with related outcomes collapsed inside each bucket) is -1.62. This is a per-pick accountability metric, separate from Bruce Allen's leaderboard composite θ.

Full-career context prevents this from being labeled as a bad talent pick: the negative model score is about retained team value, not whether the draft identified an NFL-caliber player.

The walkthrough below shows which bucket carried the pick: playing time, value quality, or league honors.

Opportunity
Did he earn the field?
Games played
84
on drafting team · 176 full-career
Games started
26
on drafting team · 52 full-career
Snap-z
0.0
0 modeled seasons
Quality
Was that time valuable?
On-team AV
14
modeled; full weighted AV 24
AV / 1k snaps
snap-era only
AV-rate z
position-year adjusted quality
Recognition
Did the league notice?
Pro Bowls
0
all on drafting team
AP1 All-Pro
0 AP1
all on drafting team · AP2 context 0
All-Decade
0
context only

Did this pick move Bruce Allen's grade?

The first chart removes the time axis: every Bruce Allen pick is sorted by retained contribution across opportunity, quality, and recognition. Will Allen totals -1.62. The second chart breaks that same contribution into the seasons when the evidence arrived. Opportunity and quality can move separately, which keeps high-snap, low-AV profiles from looking cleaner than they are.

Aggregate contribution by player

-5-4-3-2-10+1+2106. Jackson#106 · Tanard Jackson · aggregate +2.04Jackson +2.059. Trueblood#59 · Jeremy Trueblood · aggregate +1.5736. Ruud#36 · Barrett Ruud · aggregate +1.1968. Black#68 · Quincy Black · aggregate +1.01175. Hayes#175 · Geno Hayes · aggregate +0.9023. Joseph#23 · Davin Joseph · aggregate +0.50182. Hayward#182 · Adam Hayward · aggregate +0.3883. Zuttah#83 · Jeremy Zuttah · aggregate +0.28107. Buenning#107 · Dan Buenning · aggregate +0.2864. Piscitelli#64 · Sabby Piscitelli · aggregate +0.28244. Massaquoi#244 · Tim Massaquoi · aggregate +0.10181. Lawrie#181 · Nate Lawrie · aggregate +0.06252. Williams#252 · Lenny Williams · aggregate +0.04225. Warren#225 · Paris Warren · aggregate -0.00202. Williams#202 · T.J. Williams · aggregate -0.01245. Hamilton#245 · Marcus Hamilton · aggregate -0.02253. Russell#253 · J.R. Russell · aggregate -0.03235. Phinisee#235 · Justin Phinisee · aggregate -0.05146. Terry#146 · Jeb Terry · aggregate -0.06228. Cramer#228 · Casey Cramer · aggregate -0.07141. Nicholson#141 · Donte Nicholson · aggregate -0.08246. Darby#246 · Kenneth Darby · aggregate -0.08156. Jenkins#156 · Julian Jenkins · aggregate -0.0835. Sears#35 · Arron Sears · aggregate -0.08221. Razzano#221 · Rick Razzano · aggregate -0.10141. Peterson#141 · Greg Peterson · aggregate -0.12206. Jones#206 · Mark Jones · aggregate -0.12238. Boyd#238 · Cory Boyd · aggregate -0.13241. Bennett#241 · Charles Bennett · aggregate -0.2015. Clayton#15 · Michael Clayton · aggregate -0.25155. Brackins#155 · Larry Brackins · aggregate -0.31214. Denman#214 · Chris Denman · aggregate -0.37115. Moore#115 · Dre Moore · aggregate -0.3790. Stovall#90 · Maurice Stovall · aggregate -0.37122. Zemaitis#122 · Alan Zemaitis · aggregate -0.445. Williams#5 · Cadillac Williams · aggregate -0.4579. Cooper#79 · Marquis Cooper · aggregate -0.47178. Bryant#178 · Anthony Bryant · aggregate -0.47231. Abdullah#231 · Hamza Abdullah · aggregate -0.7691. Colmer#91 · Chris Colmer · aggregate -0.84194. Gradkowski#194 · Bruce Gradkowski · aggregate -0.844. Adams#4 · Gaines Adams · aggregate -0.8458. Jackson#58 · Dexter Jackson · aggregate -0.9171. Smith#71 · Alex Smith · aggregate -1.58111. Allen#111 · Will Allen · aggregate -1.62Allen -1.620. Talib#20 · Aqib Talib · aggregate -3.61Talib -3.6160. Johnson#160 · Josh Johnson · aggregate -5.91Johnson -5.9

Incremental contribution by season

-7-6-5-4-3-2-10+1+2+32004 · Jeb Terry · incremental +0.022004 · Nate Lawrie · incremental +0.062004 · Lenny Williams · incremental -0.062004 · Casey Cramer · incremental -0.182004 · Mark Jones · incremental -0.302004 · Michael Clayton · incremental -0.562004 · Marquis Cooper · incremental -0.582004 · Will Allen · incremental -0.702005 · Paris Warren · incremental +0.062005 · Michael Clayton · incremental +0.082005 · Mark Jones · incremental +0.112005 · Jeb Terry · incremental +0.112005 · Dan Buenning · incremental +0.302005 · J.R. Russell · incremental -0.102005 · Marquis Cooper · incremental -0.152005 · Donte Nicholson · incremental -0.162005 · Nate Lawrie · incremental -0.172005 · Barrett Ruud · incremental -0.222005 · Rick Razzano · incremental -0.232005 · Will Allen · incremental -0.502005 · Larry Brackins · incremental -0.562005 · Cadillac Williams · incremental -0.712005 · Anthony Bryant · incremental -0.812005 · Alex Smith · incremental -1.192005 · Hamza Abdullah · incremental -1.282005 · Chris Colmer · incremental -1.372006 · Cadillac Williams · incremental +0.032006 · Mark Jones · incremental +0.052006 · Michael Clayton · incremental +0.062006 · Dan Buenning · incremental +0.142006 · Jeremy Trueblood · incremental +0.142006 · Barrett Ruud · incremental +0.232006 · Donte Nicholson · incremental -0.002006 · Tim Massaquoi · incremental -0.052006 · Paris Warren · incremental -0.092006 · Maurice Stovall · incremental -0.182006 · Justin Phinisee · incremental -0.182006 · Julian Jenkins · incremental -0.182006 · Jeb Terry · incremental -0.192006 · T.J. Williams · incremental -0.242006 · Alex Smith · incremental -0.332006 · Charles Bennett · incremental -0.372006 · Alan Zemaitis · incremental -0.802006 · Will Allen · incremental -0.812006 · Bruce Gradkowski · incremental -0.942006 · Davin Joseph · incremental -2.142007 · Maurice Stovall · incremental +0.002007 · Cadillac Williams · incremental +0.002007 · Mark Jones · incremental +0.042007 · Michael Clayton · incremental +0.062007 · Quincy Black · incremental +0.102007 · Marcus Hamilton · incremental +0.112007 · Davin Joseph · incremental +0.362007 · Barrett Ruud · incremental +0.442007 · Adam Hayward · incremental +0.502007 · Jeremy Trueblood · incremental +0.532007 · Tanard Jackson · incremental +0.922007 · Donte Nicholson · incremental -0.002007 · Sabby Piscitelli · incremental -0.032007 · Arron Sears · incremental -0.132007 · Will Allen · incremental -0.132007 · Kenneth Darby · incremental -0.182007 · Greg Peterson · incremental -0.242007 · Bruce Gradkowski · incremental -0.262007 · Gaines Adams · incremental -0.492007 · Alex Smith · incremental -0.522007 · Chris Denman · incremental -0.652008 · Cadillac Williams · incremental +0.002008 · Geno Hayes · incremental +0.022008 · Maurice Stovall · incremental +0.032008 · Michael Clayton · incremental +0.072008 · Sabby Piscitelli · incremental +0.152008 · Quincy Black · incremental +0.212008 · Adam Hayward · incremental +0.222008 · Barrett Ruud · incremental +0.462008 · Jeremy Trueblood · incremental +0.512008 · Tanard Jackson · incremental +0.872008 · Davin Joseph · incremental +1.132008 · Donte Nicholson · incremental -0.022008 · Greg Peterson · incremental -0.032008 · Arron Sears · incremental -0.032008 · Will Allen · incremental -0.062008 · Marcus Hamilton · incremental -0.122008 · Dre Moore · incremental -0.222008 · Cory Boyd · incremental -0.272008 · Alex Smith · incremental -0.372008 · Gaines Adams · incremental -0.552008 · Jeremy Zuttah · incremental -0.612008 · Josh Johnson · incremental -0.882008 · Dexter Jackson · incremental -1.452008 · Aqib Talib · incremental -3.362009 · Cadillac Williams · incremental +0.042009 · Michael Clayton · incremental +0.092009 · Adam Hayward · incremental +0.192009 · Sabby Piscitelli · incremental +0.222009 · Davin Joseph · incremental +0.332009 · Jeremy Zuttah · incremental +0.362009 · Barrett Ruud · incremental +0.412009 · Geno Hayes · incremental +0.442009 · Quincy Black · incremental +0.452009 · Jeremy Trueblood · incremental +0.482009 · Tanard Jackson · incremental +0.682009 · Marcus Hamilton · incremental -0.122009 · Will Allen · incremental -0.132009 · Gaines Adams · incremental -0.152009 · Maurice Stovall · incremental -0.242009 · Dre Moore · incremental -0.452009 · Aqib Talib · incremental -0.922009 · Josh Johnson · incremental -4.042010 · Cadillac Williams · incremental +0.012010 · Sabby Piscitelli · incremental +0.092010 · Tanard Jackson · incremental +0.112010 · Adam Hayward · incremental +0.162010 · Davin Joseph · incremental +0.252010 · Jeremy Zuttah · incremental +0.272010 · Jeremy Trueblood · incremental +0.322010 · Quincy Black · incremental +0.342010 · Barrett Ruud · incremental +0.432010 · Geno Hayes · incremental +0.542010 · Maurice Stovall · incremental -0.022010 · Aqib Talib · incremental -0.762010 · Josh Johnson · incremental -1.812011 · Adam Hayward · incremental +0.192011 · Jeremy Zuttah · incremental +0.342011 · Quincy Black · incremental +0.382011 · Geno Hayes · incremental +0.412011 · Jeremy Trueblood · incremental +0.472011 · Tanard Jackson · incremental +0.492011 · Davin Joseph · incremental +1.212011 · Aqib Talib · incremental -0.732011 · Josh Johnson · incremental -2.112012 · Jeremy Trueblood · incremental +0.132012 · Adam Hayward · incremental +0.142012 · Quincy Black · incremental +0.222012 · Jeremy Zuttah · incremental +0.392012 · Aqib Talib · incremental -0.272013 · Adam Hayward · incremental +0.032013 · Davin Joseph · incremental +0.342013 · Jeremy Zuttah · incremental +0.37Allen -0.7Allen -0.5Allen -0.8Joseph -2.1Allen -0.1Allen -0.1Talib -3.4Allen -0.1Johnson -4.0Johnson -1.8Johnson -2.120048 players200518 players200620 players200721 players200824 players200918 players201013 players20119 players20125 players20133 players
Above expectationBelow expectationWill AllenGM total -13.0Will Allen by season -2.3

How much retained production did Will Allen return vs. his slot?

Each mark below is one player's model value above slot. Light gray marks are slot-similar peers: DBs drafted within ±5 picks of Will Allen since 2010 (15 players).The score is the retained production/value bucket from the pick-residual model: on-team AV plus AV-rate quality, adjusted for draft slot, position, and era. Opportunity snaps and league honors are excluded.

-0.50Model value above slot114. ColvinAaron Colvin · model value +0.3111. WilliamsEvan Williams · model value +0.2115. MathisDamarri Mathis · model value +0.2110. AlexanderMaurice Alexander · model value +0.2108. CarterQuinton Carter · model value +0.1108. JacksonKhyree Jackson · model value -0.1111. ThurmondWalter Thurmond · model value -0.1110. StuckeyDarrell Stuckey · model value -0.2111. ThomasShamarko Thomas · model value -0.2114. BeltonDane Belton · model value -0.3116. McGillKeith McGill · model value -0.3115. SensabaughCoty Sensabaugh · model value -0.4114. WebbB.W. Webb · model value -0.5113. ChekwaChimdi Chekwa · model value -0.6109. CockrellRoss Cockrell · model value -0.8111. AllenWill Allen · model value -0.9-0.9
Will AllenSlot-similar peers (15)

Cumulative value over time

Year-by-year running totals since draft. Left axis = games started. Right axis = honors (Pro Bowl / AP1 / AP2). Pre-2013 picks have no games-started line because that comes from per-game snap counts (not available for older players). Honors extend back to 1980.

'04'06'08'10'12'14'1501531466101Cumulative GSHonors count
Games started (cumulative) Pro Bowls AP1 All-Pro AP2 All-Pro

Full-career season history (12 scored seasons)

YearTeamGPGSSnapsSnap-zAVAV/snapPBAP1AP2
2004TB1601
2005TB1384
2006TB16165
2007TB1502
2008TB1601
2009TB821
2010PIT1401
2011PIT1601
2012PIT1674
2013DAL, PIT1710723-1.322.8
2014PIT166490-0.524.1
2015PIT13128921.055.6

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