← 1983 DRAFT PLAYER PROFILE R3 · #65 OVERALL · TE

John Tice

Drafted by NO · GM Ken Meyer/staff · Maryland

All NFL teams

Full-career context

These totals follow John Tice across every NFL team. Draft credit is separated below for each team that selected him.

Games played134
Games started57
Weighted career AV12
Pro Bowls0
AP1 All-Pro0
Career seasons10

Accountability by draft event

What each drafting team received

1983 · Round 3 · #65

NO draft credit

GM Ken Meyer/staff

Team games134
Team starts57
On-team AV14
On-team PB / AP10 / 0
Average-0.08 contribution13th of 35 picks for this GM

Games: direct team-season record. Starts: direct team-season record.

An Average pick

John Tice was Ken Meyer/staff's 13th-best of 35 picks across his career.

His retained-value contribution score (opportunity plus quality plus recognition, with related outcomes collapsed inside each bucket) is -0.08. This is a per-pick accountability metric, separate from Ken Meyer/staff's leaderboard composite θ.

The walkthrough below shows which bucket carried the pick: playing time, value quality, or league honors.

Opportunity
Did he earn the field?
Games played
134
on drafting team
Games started
57
on drafting team
Snap-z
0.0
0 modeled seasons
Quality
Was that time valuable?
On-team AV
14
modeled; full weighted AV 12
AV / 1k snaps
snap-era only
AV-rate z
position-year adjusted quality
Recognition
Did the league notice?
Pro Bowls
0
all on drafting team
AP1 All-Pro
0 AP1
all on drafting team · AP2 context 0
All-Decade
0
context only

Did this pick move Ken Meyer/staff's grade?

The first chart removes the time axis: every Ken Meyer/staff pick is sorted by retained contribution across opportunity, quality, and recognition. John Tice totals -0.08. The second chart breaks that same contribution into the seasons when the evidence arrived. Opportunity and quality can move separately, which keeps high-snap, low-AV profiles from looking cleaner than they are.

Aggregate contribution by player

-4-20+2+4+651. Jackson#51 · Rickey Jackson · aggregate +6.88Jackson +6.997. Hilgenberg#97 · Joel Hilgenberg · aggregate +3.15Hilgenberg +3.1144. Poe#144 · Johnnie Poe · aggregate +3.14Poe +3.171. Brenner#71 · Hoby Brenner · aggregate +1.86114. Elliott#114 · Tony Elliott · aggregate +1.7830. Edelman#30 · Brad Edelman · aggregate +1.72166. Redd#166 · Glen Redd · aggregate +0.9541. Waymer#41 · Dave Waymer · aggregate +0.8738. Korte#38 · Steve Korte · aggregate +0.8266. Goodlow#66 · Eugene Goodlow · aggregate +0.6929. Gary#29 · Russell Gary · aggregate +0.471. Rogers#1 · George Rogers · aggregate +0.3465. Tice#65 · John Tice · aggregate -0.08Tice -0.157. Warren#57 · Frank Warren · aggregate -0.10112. Oubre#112 · Louis Oubre · aggregate -0.14156. Thorp#156 · Don Thorp · aggregate -0.31123. Fields#123 · Jitter Fields · aggregate -0.3368. Duckett#68 · Kenny Duckett · aggregate -0.3569. Anthony#69 · Tyrone Anthony · aggregate -0.41167. Williams#167 · Kevin Williams · aggregate -0.50177. Morucci#177 · Mike Morucci · aggregate -0.5258. Lewis#58 · Rodney Lewis · aggregate -0.55142. Lewis#142 · Marvin Lewis · aggregate -0.56139. Hudson#139 · Nat Hudson · aggregate -0.5898. Lewis#98 · Gary Lewis · aggregate -0.62150. Boyd#150 · Lester Boyd · aggregate -0.7776. Krimm#76 · John Krimm · aggregate -0.7713. Scott#13 · Lindsay Scott · aggregate -0.7996. Jolly#96 · Mike Jolly · aggregate -0.8466. Austin#66 · Cliff Austin · aggregate -0.90128. Boyarsky#128 · Jerry Boyarsky · aggregate -1.8242. Geathers#42 · Jumpy Geathers · aggregate -3.32Geathers -3.368. Hoage#68 · Terry Hoage · aggregate -4.31Hoage -4.386. Andersen#86 · Morten Andersen · aggregate -4.57Andersen -4.612. Brock#12 · Stan Brock · aggregate -5.82Brock -5.8

Incremental contribution by season

-18-16-14-12-10-8-6-4-20+2+4+61980 · Mike Morucci · incremental -0.851980 · Dave Waymer · incremental -1.081980 · Lester Boyd · incremental -1.261980 · Mike Jolly · incremental -1.421980 · Stan Brock · incremental -14.581981 · Stan Brock · incremental +0.241981 · Dave Waymer · incremental +0.311981 · Glen Redd · incremental +0.511981 · Johnnie Poe · incremental +0.661981 · George Rogers · incremental +1.711981 · Louis Oubre · incremental -0.131981 · Russell Gary · incremental -0.151981 · Hoby Brenner · incremental -0.571981 · Kevin Williams · incremental -0.841981 · Nat Hudson · incremental -0.901981 · Rickey Jackson · incremental -1.671981 · Frank Warren · incremental -2.151981 · Jerry Boyarsky · incremental -2.881982 · Brad Edelman · incremental +0.071982 · Tony Elliott · incremental +0.081982 · Frank Warren · incremental +0.091982 · Stan Brock · incremental +0.141982 · Hoby Brenner · incremental +0.181982 · Russell Gary · incremental +0.211982 · Dave Waymer · incremental +0.251982 · George Rogers · incremental +0.421982 · Rickey Jackson · incremental +0.441982 · Johnnie Poe · incremental +0.591982 · Louis Oubre · incremental -0.041982 · Eugene Goodlow · incremental -0.071982 · Kenny Duckett · incremental -0.131982 · Rodney Lewis · incremental -0.231982 · Lindsay Scott · incremental -0.531982 · Marvin Lewis · incremental -0.921982 · John Krimm · incremental -1.251982 · Morten Andersen · incremental -4.921983 · Frank Warren · incremental +0.161983 · Tony Elliott · incremental +0.171983 · Glen Redd · incremental +0.211983 · Russell Gary · incremental +0.221983 · Stan Brock · incremental +0.241983 · Eugene Goodlow · incremental +0.341983 · Hoby Brenner · incremental +0.371983 · Dave Waymer · incremental +0.371983 · Brad Edelman · incremental +0.391983 · Johnnie Poe · incremental +0.911983 · Rickey Jackson · incremental +1.331983 · Louis Oubre · incremental -0.071983 · Steve Korte · incremental -0.131983 · Lindsay Scott · incremental -0.271983 · George Rogers · incremental -0.341983 · Morten Andersen · incremental -0.401983 · Kenny Duckett · incremental -0.461983 · Rodney Lewis · incremental -0.511983 · John Tice · incremental -0.531983 · Gary Lewis · incremental -1.021983 · Cliff Austin · incremental -1.381984 · Kenny Duckett · incremental +0.011984 · John Tice · incremental +0.101984 · Tony Elliott · incremental +0.131984 · Frank Warren · incremental +0.151984 · Eugene Goodlow · incremental +0.211984 · Stan Brock · incremental +0.211984 · Glen Redd · incremental +0.231984 · Russell Gary · incremental +0.241984 · Brad Edelman · incremental +0.271984 · Steve Korte · incremental +0.341984 · Dave Waymer · incremental +0.341984 · Hoby Brenner · incremental +0.371984 · Johnnie Poe · incremental +0.781984 · Rickey Jackson · incremental +1.331984 · Joel Hilgenberg · incremental -0.031984 · Louis Oubre · incremental -0.051984 · Rodney Lewis · incremental -0.161984 · Lindsay Scott · incremental -0.171984 · George Rogers · incremental -0.331984 · Morten Andersen · incremental -0.401984 · Tyrone Anthony · incremental -0.511984 · Don Thorp · incremental -0.541984 · Jitter Fields · incremental -0.591984 · Jumpy Geathers · incremental -1.981984 · Terry Hoage · incremental -2.861985 · Kenny Duckett · incremental +0.001985 · Russell Gary · incremental +0.021985 · John Tice · incremental +0.121985 · Frank Warren · incremental +0.151985 · Morten Andersen · incremental +0.151985 · Brad Edelman · incremental +0.191985 · Stan Brock · incremental +0.241985 · Steve Korte · incremental +0.271985 · Dave Waymer · incremental +0.311985 · Joel Hilgenberg · incremental +0.321985 · Eugene Goodlow · incremental +0.351985 · Hoby Brenner · incremental +0.371985 · Glen Redd · incremental +0.561985 · Tony Elliott · incremental +0.641985 · Johnnie Poe · incremental +0.741985 · Rickey Jackson · incremental +1.261985 · Lindsay Scott · incremental -0.031985 · Tyrone Anthony · incremental -0.111985 · Jumpy Geathers · incremental -0.211985 · Terry Hoage · incremental -3.971986 · Russell Gary · incremental +0.061986 · John Tice · incremental +0.101986 · Glen Redd · incremental +0.121986 · Frank Warren · incremental +0.161986 · Stan Brock · incremental +0.241986 · Joel Hilgenberg · incremental +0.271986 · Eugene Goodlow · incremental +0.291986 · Brad Edelman · incremental +0.311986 · Hoby Brenner · incremental +0.311986 · Steve Korte · incremental +0.361986 · Dave Waymer · incremental +0.371986 · Tony Elliott · incremental +0.631986 · Morten Andersen · incremental +0.821986 · Johnnie Poe · incremental +0.841986 · Rickey Jackson · incremental +1.361986 · Jumpy Geathers · incremental -0.491987 · Steve Korte · incremental +0.031987 · John Tice · incremental +0.081987 · Frank Warren · incremental +0.121987 · Stan Brock · incremental +0.191987 · Johnnie Poe · incremental +0.281987 · Rickey Jackson · incremental +0.461987 · Joel Hilgenberg · incremental +0.481987 · Tony Elliott · incremental +0.601987 · Hoby Brenner · incremental +0.621987 · Morten Andersen · incremental +0.921987 · Brad Edelman · incremental +1.001987 · Jumpy Geathers · incremental -0.011987 · Dave Waymer · incremental -0.571988 · John Tice · incremental +0.081988 · Stan Brock · incremental +0.101988 · Frank Warren · incremental +0.171988 · Dave Waymer · incremental +0.261988 · Brad Edelman · incremental +0.331988 · Steve Korte · incremental +0.371988 · Morten Andersen · incremental +0.431988 · Joel Hilgenberg · incremental +0.441988 · Tony Elliott · incremental +0.541988 · Rickey Jackson · incremental +0.571988 · Hoby Brenner · incremental +0.581988 · Jumpy Geathers · incremental -0.901989 · Steve Korte · incremental +0.101989 · John Tice · incremental +0.121989 · Frank Warren · incremental +0.181989 · Brad Edelman · incremental +0.221989 · Stan Brock · incremental +0.251989 · Dave Waymer · incremental +0.361989 · Hoby Brenner · incremental +0.371989 · Rickey Jackson · incremental +0.481989 · Joel Hilgenberg · incremental +0.551989 · Morten Andersen · incremental -0.331989 · Jumpy Geathers · incremental -1.691990 · John Tice · incremental +0.141990 · Stan Brock · incremental +0.241990 · Hoby Brenner · incremental +0.381990 · Joel Hilgenberg · incremental +0.591990 · Rickey Jackson · incremental +0.621990 · Morten Andersen · incremental -0.471991 · John Tice · incremental +0.101991 · Frank Warren · incremental +0.181991 · Stan Brock · incremental +0.251991 · Hoby Brenner · incremental +0.381991 · Joel Hilgenberg · incremental +0.561991 · Rickey Jackson · incremental +1.311991 · Morten Andersen · incremental -0.471992 · John Tice · incremental +0.031992 · Frank Warren · incremental +0.181992 · Morten Andersen · incremental +0.221992 · Stan Brock · incremental +0.251992 · Hoby Brenner · incremental +0.331992 · Rickey Jackson · incremental +1.431992 · Joel Hilgenberg · incremental +1.461993 · Frank Warren · incremental +0.091993 · Hoby Brenner · incremental +0.221993 · Joel Hilgenberg · incremental +0.341993 · Rickey Jackson · incremental +1.361993 · Morten Andersen · incremental -0.471994 · Frank Warren · incremental +0.171994 · Morten Andersen · incremental -0.33Brock -14.6Rogers +1.7Jackson -1.7Warren -2.1Boyarsky -2.9Andersen -4.9Tice -0.5Tice +0.1Geathers -2.0Hoage -2.9Tice +0.1Hoage -4.0Tice +0.1Tice +0.1Tice +0.1Tice +0.1Geathers -1.7Tice +0.1Tice +0.1Tice +0.019805 players198113 players198218 players198321 players198425 players198520 players198616 players198713 players198812 players198911 players19906 players19917 players19927 players19935 players19942 players
Above expectationBelow expectationJohn TiceGM total -6.3John Tice by season +0.3

How much retained production did John Tice return vs. his slot?

Each mark below is one player's model value above slot. Light gray marks are slot-similar peers: TEs drafted within ±5 picks of John Tice since 2010 (9 players).The score is the retained production/value bucket from the pick-residual model: on-team AV plus AV-rate quality, adjusted for draft slot, position, and era. Opportunity snaps and league honors are excluded.

-0.50+0.5+1+1.5+2+2.5+3Model value above slot63. KelceTravis Kelce · model value +3.4+3.467. FanninHarold Fannin · model value +0.669. HouslerRob Housler · model value +0.468. WalfordClive Walford · model value +0.261. StrangeBrenton Strange · model value +0.164. AllenDwayne Allen · model value -0.165. FiedorowiczC.J. Fiedorowicz · model value -0.365. TiceJohn Tice · model value -0.5-0.569. OliverJosh Oliver · model value -0.670. DicksonEd Dickson · model value -0.9
John TiceSlot-similar peers (9)

Cumulative value over time

Year-by-year running totals since draft. Left axis = games started. Right axis = honors (Pro Bowl / AP1 / AP2). Pre-2013 picks have no games-started line because that comes from per-game snap counts (not available for older players). Honors extend back to 1980.

'84'86'88'90'9201429435701Cumulative GSHonors count
Games started (cumulative) Pro Bowls AP1 All-Pro AP2 All-Pro

Full-career season history (10 scored seasons)

YearTeamGPGSSnapsSnap-zAVAV/snapPBAP1AP2
1983NO1610
1984NO1000
1985NO1692
1986NO16133
1987NO1282
1988NO15123
1989NO1521
1990NO1641
1991NO1572
1992NO310

How to read this