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John Kidd

Drafted by BUF · GM Stew Barber · Northwestern

All NFL teams

Full-career context

These totals follow John Kidd across every NFL team. Draft credit is separated below for each team that selected him.

Games played215
Games started0
Weighted career AV20
Pro Bowls0
AP1 All-Pro0
Career seasons15

Accountability by draft event

What each drafting team received

1984 · Round 5 · #128

BUF draft credit

GM Stew Barber

Team games92
Team starts0
On-team AV11
On-team PB / AP10 / 0
Terrible-3.73 contribution35th of 38 picks for this GM

Games: direct team-season record. Starts: direct team-season record.

Long-career hit

John Kidd became a 15-season, 215-game NFL player after going #128. The retained-value model still ranks him 35th of 38 for Stew Barber because BUF only got 92 of those games.

His retained-value contribution score (opportunity plus quality plus recognition, with related outcomes collapsed inside each bucket) is -3.73. This is a per-pick accountability metric, separate from Stew Barber's leaderboard composite θ.

Full-career context prevents this from being labeled as a bad talent pick: the negative model score is about retained team value, not whether the draft identified an NFL-caliber player.

The walkthrough below shows which bucket carried the pick: playing time, value quality, or league honors.

Opportunity
Did he earn the field?
Games played
92
on drafting team · 215 full-career
Games started
0
on drafting team
Snap-z
0.0
0 modeled seasons
Quality
Was that time valuable?
On-team AV
11
modeled; full weighted AV 20
AV / 1k snaps
snap-era only
AV-rate z
position-year adjusted quality
Recognition
Did the league notice?
Pro Bowls
0
all on drafting team
AP1 All-Pro
0 AP1
all on drafting team · AP2 context 0
All-Decade
0
context only

Did this pick move Stew Barber's grade?

The first chart removes the time axis: every Stew Barber pick is sorted by retained contribution across opportunity, quality, and recognition. John Kidd totals -3.73. The second chart breaks that same contribution into the seasons when the evidence arrived. Opportunity and quality can move separately, which keeps high-snap, low-AV profiles from looking cleaner than they are.

Aggregate contribution by player

-10-8-6-4-20+2+4+614. Kelly#14 · Jim Kelly · aggregate +6.82Kelly +6.839. Talley#39 · Darryl Talley · aggregate +1.9129. Cribbs#29 · Joe Cribbs · aggregate +1.5767. Brammer#67 · Mark Brammer · aggregate +0.9693. Parker#93 · Ervin Parker · aggregate +0.7679. McNanie#79 · Sean McNanie · aggregate +0.2377. Bellinger#77 · Rodney Bellinger · aggregate +0.1826. Bell#26 · Greg Bell · aggregate +0.03182. David#182 · Stan David · aggregate -0.1848. Kofler#48 · Matt Kofler · aggregate -0.26160. Chivers#160 · DeWayne Chivers · aggregate -0.32180. Brown#180 · Gurnest Brown · aggregate -0.3228. Moore#28 · Booker Moore · aggregate -0.34161. Holt#161 · Robert Holt · aggregate -0.3995. Brookins#95 · Mitchell Brookins · aggregate -0.39135. Clark#135 · Calvin Clark · aggregate -0.56126. Boom#126 · Matt Vanden Boom · aggregate -0.5676. Mosley#76 · Mike Mosley · aggregate -0.59188. Doolittle#188 · Steve Doolittle · aggregate -0.5982. Neal#82 · Speedy Neal · aggregate -0.60112. Payne#112 · Jimmy Payne · aggregate -0.6149. Williams#49 · Chris Williams · aggregate -0.69119. Pyburn#119 · Jeff Pyburn · aggregate -0.7193. Williams#93 · Van Williams · aggregate -0.7359. Marve#59 · Eugene Marve · aggregate -0.7550. Franklin#50 · Byron Franklin · aggregate -0.8141. Richardson#41 · Eric Richardson · aggregate -0.8583. Geathers#83 · Robert Geathers · aggregate -0.87129. Lee#129 · Keith Lee · aggregate -1.0137. Bradley#37 · Gene Bradley · aggregate -1.0812. Hunter#12 · Tony Hunter · aggregate -1.2471. Schmeding#71 · John Schmeding · aggregate -1.29155. Slaton#155 · Tony Slaton · aggregate -1.3819. Tuttle#19 · Perry Tuttle · aggregate -1.43128. Kidd#128 · John Kidd · aggregate -3.73Kidd -3.716. Ritcher#16 · Jim Ritcher · aggregate -4.93Ritcher -4.993. Junkin#93 · Trey Junkin · aggregate -10.01Junkin -10.0171. Anderson#171 · Gary Anderson · aggregate -10.82Anderson -10.8

Incremental contribution by season

-24-22-20-18-16-14-12-10-8-6-4-20+21980 · Ervin Parker · incremental +0.141980 · Mark Brammer · incremental +0.251980 · Joe Cribbs · incremental +0.511980 · Jeff Pyburn · incremental -1.201980 · Keith Lee · incremental -1.671980 · Gene Bradley · incremental -1.671980 · John Schmeding · incremental -2.051980 · Jim Ritcher · incremental -12.941981 · Jim Ritcher · incremental +0.121981 · Ervin Parker · incremental +0.201981 · Mark Brammer · incremental +0.501981 · Joe Cribbs · incremental +0.931981 · Mike Mosley · incremental -0.071981 · Chris Williams · incremental -0.081981 · Booker Moore · incremental -0.171981 · Robert Holt · incremental -0.181981 · Byron Franklin · incremental -0.331981 · Calvin Clark · incremental -0.981981 · Steve Doolittle · incremental -0.991981 · Robert Geathers · incremental -1.431982 · Jim Ritcher · incremental +0.061982 · Joe Cribbs · incremental +0.111982 · Ervin Parker · incremental +0.331982 · Mark Brammer · incremental +0.341982 · Booker Moore · incremental -0.061982 · Van Williams · incremental -0.111982 · Chris Williams · incremental -0.141982 · Mike Mosley · incremental -0.291982 · Matt Kofler · incremental -0.371982 · Robert Holt · incremental -0.491982 · DeWayne Chivers · incremental -0.721982 · Perry Tuttle · incremental -0.951982 · Eugene Marve · incremental -1.341982 · Gary Anderson · incremental -16.751983 · Matt Kofler · incremental +0.071983 · Jim Ritcher · incremental +0.251983 · Mark Brammer · incremental +0.371983 · Ervin Parker · incremental +0.471983 · Joe Cribbs · incremental +0.901983 · Eugene Marve · incremental -0.011983 · Booker Moore · incremental -0.101983 · Byron Franklin · incremental -0.311983 · Van Williams · incremental -0.451983 · Mike Mosley · incremental -0.531983 · Gurnest Brown · incremental -0.581983 · Chris Williams · incremental -0.911983 · Tony Hunter · incremental -0.971983 · Matt Vanden Boom · incremental -0.971983 · Jimmy Payne · incremental -1.051983 · Perry Tuttle · incremental -1.241983 · Darryl Talley · incremental -1.611983 · Trey Junkin · incremental -15.631984 · Rodney Bellinger · incremental +0.021984 · Mark Brammer · incremental +0.141984 · Jim Ritcher · incremental +0.211984 · Darryl Talley · incremental +0.411984 · Greg Bell · incremental +0.471984 · Matt Kofler · incremental -0.001984 · Booker Moore · incremental -0.001984 · Sean McNanie · incremental -0.011984 · Eugene Marve · incremental -0.011984 · Mike Mosley · incremental -0.051984 · Eric Richardson · incremental -0.081984 · Stan David · incremental -0.291984 · Mitchell Brookins · incremental -0.321984 · Trey Junkin · incremental -0.431984 · Van Williams · incremental -0.471984 · Byron Franklin · incremental -0.571984 · Speedy Neal · incremental -0.961984 · Tony Hunter · incremental -0.991984 · Tony Slaton · incremental -2.201984 · John Kidd · incremental -4.031985 · Joe Cribbs · incremental +0.011985 · Sean McNanie · incremental +0.101985 · Booker Moore · incremental +0.101985 · Rodney Bellinger · incremental +0.141985 · Darryl Talley · incremental +0.241985 · Jim Ritcher · incremental +0.241985 · Van Williams · incremental -0.001985 · Eugene Marve · incremental -0.011985 · Greg Bell · incremental -0.191985 · Mitchell Brookins · incremental -0.281985 · John Kidd · incremental -0.401985 · Eric Richardson · incremental -0.811986 · Rodney Bellinger · incremental +0.121986 · Sean McNanie · incremental +0.181986 · Jim Ritcher · incremental +0.251986 · Darryl Talley · incremental +0.431986 · Jim Kelly · incremental +0.581986 · Eugene Marve · incremental -0.011986 · Greg Bell · incremental -0.081986 · Eric Richardson · incremental -0.311986 · John Kidd · incremental -0.401987 · Sean McNanie · incremental +0.141987 · Jim Ritcher · incremental +0.181987 · Darryl Talley · incremental +0.331987 · Jim Kelly · incremental +1.011987 · Eugene Marve · incremental -0.011987 · Greg Bell · incremental -0.021987 · John Kidd · incremental -0.371988 · Jim Ritcher · incremental +0.251988 · Darryl Talley · incremental +0.411988 · Jim Kelly · incremental +1.181988 · John Kidd · incremental -0.401989 · Jim Ritcher · incremental +0.251989 · Darryl Talley · incremental +0.441989 · Jim Kelly · incremental +0.521989 · John Kidd · incremental -0.251990 · Jim Ritcher · incremental +0.251990 · Darryl Talley · incremental +0.341990 · Jim Kelly · incremental +1.161991 · Jim Ritcher · incremental +0.271991 · Darryl Talley · incremental +0.351991 · Jim Kelly · incremental +2.891992 · Jim Ritcher · incremental +0.261992 · Darryl Talley · incremental +0.441992 · Jim Kelly · incremental +1.201993 · Jim Ritcher · incremental +0.171993 · Darryl Talley · incremental +0.451993 · Jim Kelly · incremental +0.581994 · Darryl Talley · incremental +0.431994 · Jim Kelly · incremental +0.541995 · Jim Kelly · incremental +0.521996 · Jim Kelly · incremental +0.41Lee -1.7Bradley -1.7Schmeding -2.0Ritcher -12.9Anderson -16.8Talley -1.6Junkin -15.6Slaton -2.2Kidd -4.0Kidd -0.4Kidd -0.4Kidd -0.4Kidd -0.4Kidd -0.2Kelly +2.919808 players198112 players198214 players198318 players198420 players198512 players19869 players19877 players19884 players19894 players19903 players19913 players19923 players19933 players19942 players19951 player19961 player
Above expectationBelow expectationJohn KiddGM total -35.6John Kidd by season -5.8

How much retained production did John Kidd return vs. his slot?

Each mark below is one player's model value above slot. Light gray marks are slot-similar peers: Ps drafted within ±5 picks of John Kidd since 2010 (2 players).The score is the retained production/value bucket from the pick-residual model: on-team AV plus AV-rate quality, adjusted for draft slot, position, and era. Opportunity snaps and league honors are excluded.

-1.5-1-0.50+0.5Model value above slot133. CamardaJake Camarda · model value +0.7130. StoutJordan Stout · model value +0.4128. KiddJohn Kidd · model value -1.6-1.6
John KiddSlot-similar peers (2)

Cumulative value over time

Year-by-year running totals since draft. Left axis = games started. Right axis = honors (Pro Bowl / AP1 / AP2). Pre-2013 picks have no games-started line because that comes from per-game snap counts (not available for older players). Honors extend back to 1980.

'84'86'88'90'92'94'96'980011101Cumulative GSHonors count
Games started (cumulative) Pro Bowls AP1 All-Pro AP2 All-Pro

Full-career season history (15 scored seasons)

YearTeamGPGSSnapsSnap-zAVAV/snapPBAP1AP2
1984BUF1602
1985BUF1602
1986BUF1602
1987BUF1202
1988BUF1602
1989BUF1601
1990LAC1602
1991LAC1602
1992LAC1602
1993LAC1402
1994LAC, MIA601
1995MIA1602
1996MIA1604
1997MIA1302
1998DET, NYJ1001

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