← 1980 DRAFT PLAYER PROFILE R2 · #41 OVERALL · DB

Dave Waymer

Drafted by NO · GM Ken Meyer/staff · Notre Dame

All NFL teams

Full-career context

These totals follow Dave Waymer across every NFL team. Draft credit is separated below for each team that selected him.

Games played197
Games started155
Weighted career AV68
Pro Bowls1
AP1 All-Pro0
Career seasons13

Accountability by draft event

What each drafting team received

1980 · Round 2 · #41

NO draft credit

GM Ken Meyer/staff

Team games149
Team starts131
On-team AV70
On-team PB / AP11 / 0
Excellent+0.87 contribution8th of 35 picks for this GM

Games: direct team-season record. Starts: direct team-season record.

An Excellent pick

Dave Waymer was Ken Meyer/staff's 8th-best of 35 picks across his career.

His retained-value contribution score (opportunity plus quality plus recognition, with related outcomes collapsed inside each bucket) is +0.87. This is a per-pick accountability metric, separate from Ken Meyer/staff's leaderboard composite θ.

The walkthrough below shows which bucket carried the pick: playing time, value quality, or league honors.

Opportunity
Did he earn the field?
Games played
149
on drafting team · 197 full-career
Games started
131
on drafting team · 155 full-career
Snap-z
0.0
0 modeled seasons
Quality
Was that time valuable?
On-team AV
70
modeled; full weighted AV 68
AV / 1k snaps
snap-era only
AV-rate z
position-year adjusted quality
Recognition
Did the league notice?
Pro Bowls
1
all on drafting team
AP1 All-Pro
0 AP1
all on drafting team · AP2 context 1
All-Decade
0
context only

Did this pick move Ken Meyer/staff's grade?

The first chart removes the time axis: every Ken Meyer/staff pick is sorted by retained contribution across opportunity, quality, and recognition. Dave Waymer totals +0.87. The second chart breaks that same contribution into the seasons when the evidence arrived. Opportunity and quality can move separately, which keeps high-snap, low-AV profiles from looking cleaner than they are.

Aggregate contribution by player

-4-20+2+4+651. Jackson#51 · Rickey Jackson · aggregate +6.88Jackson +6.997. Hilgenberg#97 · Joel Hilgenberg · aggregate +3.15Hilgenberg +3.1144. Poe#144 · Johnnie Poe · aggregate +3.14Poe +3.171. Brenner#71 · Hoby Brenner · aggregate +1.86114. Elliott#114 · Tony Elliott · aggregate +1.7830. Edelman#30 · Brad Edelman · aggregate +1.72166. Redd#166 · Glen Redd · aggregate +0.9541. Waymer#41 · Dave Waymer · aggregate +0.87Waymer +0.938. Korte#38 · Steve Korte · aggregate +0.8266. Goodlow#66 · Eugene Goodlow · aggregate +0.6929. Gary#29 · Russell Gary · aggregate +0.471. Rogers#1 · George Rogers · aggregate +0.3465. Tice#65 · John Tice · aggregate -0.0857. Warren#57 · Frank Warren · aggregate -0.10112. Oubre#112 · Louis Oubre · aggregate -0.14156. Thorp#156 · Don Thorp · aggregate -0.31123. Fields#123 · Jitter Fields · aggregate -0.3368. Duckett#68 · Kenny Duckett · aggregate -0.3569. Anthony#69 · Tyrone Anthony · aggregate -0.41167. Williams#167 · Kevin Williams · aggregate -0.50177. Morucci#177 · Mike Morucci · aggregate -0.5258. Lewis#58 · Rodney Lewis · aggregate -0.55142. Lewis#142 · Marvin Lewis · aggregate -0.56139. Hudson#139 · Nat Hudson · aggregate -0.5898. Lewis#98 · Gary Lewis · aggregate -0.62150. Boyd#150 · Lester Boyd · aggregate -0.7776. Krimm#76 · John Krimm · aggregate -0.7713. Scott#13 · Lindsay Scott · aggregate -0.7996. Jolly#96 · Mike Jolly · aggregate -0.8466. Austin#66 · Cliff Austin · aggregate -0.90128. Boyarsky#128 · Jerry Boyarsky · aggregate -1.8242. Geathers#42 · Jumpy Geathers · aggregate -3.32Geathers -3.368. Hoage#68 · Terry Hoage · aggregate -4.31Hoage -4.386. Andersen#86 · Morten Andersen · aggregate -4.57Andersen -4.612. Brock#12 · Stan Brock · aggregate -5.82Brock -5.8

Incremental contribution by season

-18-16-14-12-10-8-6-4-20+2+4+61980 · Mike Morucci · incremental -0.851980 · Dave Waymer · incremental -1.081980 · Lester Boyd · incremental -1.261980 · Mike Jolly · incremental -1.421980 · Stan Brock · incremental -14.581981 · Stan Brock · incremental +0.241981 · Dave Waymer · incremental +0.311981 · Glen Redd · incremental +0.511981 · Johnnie Poe · incremental +0.661981 · George Rogers · incremental +1.711981 · Louis Oubre · incremental -0.131981 · Russell Gary · incremental -0.151981 · Hoby Brenner · incremental -0.571981 · Kevin Williams · incremental -0.841981 · Nat Hudson · incremental -0.901981 · Rickey Jackson · incremental -1.671981 · Frank Warren · incremental -2.151981 · Jerry Boyarsky · incremental -2.881982 · Brad Edelman · incremental +0.071982 · Tony Elliott · incremental +0.081982 · Frank Warren · incremental +0.091982 · Stan Brock · incremental +0.141982 · Hoby Brenner · incremental +0.181982 · Russell Gary · incremental +0.211982 · Dave Waymer · incremental +0.251982 · George Rogers · incremental +0.421982 · Rickey Jackson · incremental +0.441982 · Johnnie Poe · incremental +0.591982 · Louis Oubre · incremental -0.041982 · Eugene Goodlow · incremental -0.071982 · Kenny Duckett · incremental -0.131982 · Rodney Lewis · incremental -0.231982 · Lindsay Scott · incremental -0.531982 · Marvin Lewis · incremental -0.921982 · John Krimm · incremental -1.251982 · Morten Andersen · incremental -4.921983 · Frank Warren · incremental +0.161983 · Tony Elliott · incremental +0.171983 · Glen Redd · incremental +0.211983 · Russell Gary · incremental +0.221983 · Stan Brock · incremental +0.241983 · Eugene Goodlow · incremental +0.341983 · Hoby Brenner · incremental +0.371983 · Dave Waymer · incremental +0.371983 · Brad Edelman · incremental +0.391983 · Johnnie Poe · incremental +0.911983 · Rickey Jackson · incremental +1.331983 · Louis Oubre · incremental -0.071983 · Steve Korte · incremental -0.131983 · Lindsay Scott · incremental -0.271983 · George Rogers · incremental -0.341983 · Morten Andersen · incremental -0.401983 · Kenny Duckett · incremental -0.461983 · Rodney Lewis · incremental -0.511983 · John Tice · incremental -0.531983 · Gary Lewis · incremental -1.021983 · Cliff Austin · incremental -1.381984 · Kenny Duckett · incremental +0.011984 · John Tice · incremental +0.101984 · Tony Elliott · incremental +0.131984 · Frank Warren · incremental +0.151984 · Eugene Goodlow · incremental +0.211984 · Stan Brock · incremental +0.211984 · Glen Redd · incremental +0.231984 · Russell Gary · incremental +0.241984 · Brad Edelman · incremental +0.271984 · Steve Korte · incremental +0.341984 · Dave Waymer · incremental +0.341984 · Hoby Brenner · incremental +0.371984 · Johnnie Poe · incremental +0.781984 · Rickey Jackson · incremental +1.331984 · Joel Hilgenberg · incremental -0.031984 · Louis Oubre · incremental -0.051984 · Rodney Lewis · incremental -0.161984 · Lindsay Scott · incremental -0.171984 · George Rogers · incremental -0.331984 · Morten Andersen · incremental -0.401984 · Tyrone Anthony · incremental -0.511984 · Don Thorp · incremental -0.541984 · Jitter Fields · incremental -0.591984 · Jumpy Geathers · incremental -1.981984 · Terry Hoage · incremental -2.861985 · Kenny Duckett · incremental +0.001985 · Russell Gary · incremental +0.021985 · John Tice · incremental +0.121985 · Frank Warren · incremental +0.151985 · Morten Andersen · incremental +0.151985 · Brad Edelman · incremental +0.191985 · Stan Brock · incremental +0.241985 · Steve Korte · incremental +0.271985 · Dave Waymer · incremental +0.311985 · Joel Hilgenberg · incremental +0.321985 · Eugene Goodlow · incremental +0.351985 · Hoby Brenner · incremental +0.371985 · Glen Redd · incremental +0.561985 · Tony Elliott · incremental +0.641985 · Johnnie Poe · incremental +0.741985 · Rickey Jackson · incremental +1.261985 · Lindsay Scott · incremental -0.031985 · Tyrone Anthony · incremental -0.111985 · Jumpy Geathers · incremental -0.211985 · Terry Hoage · incremental -3.971986 · Russell Gary · incremental +0.061986 · John Tice · incremental +0.101986 · Glen Redd · incremental +0.121986 · Frank Warren · incremental +0.161986 · Stan Brock · incremental +0.241986 · Joel Hilgenberg · incremental +0.271986 · Eugene Goodlow · incremental +0.291986 · Brad Edelman · incremental +0.311986 · Hoby Brenner · incremental +0.311986 · Steve Korte · incremental +0.361986 · Dave Waymer · incremental +0.371986 · Tony Elliott · incremental +0.631986 · Morten Andersen · incremental +0.821986 · Johnnie Poe · incremental +0.841986 · Rickey Jackson · incremental +1.361986 · Jumpy Geathers · incremental -0.491987 · Steve Korte · incremental +0.031987 · John Tice · incremental +0.081987 · Frank Warren · incremental +0.121987 · Stan Brock · incremental +0.191987 · Johnnie Poe · incremental +0.281987 · Rickey Jackson · incremental +0.461987 · Joel Hilgenberg · incremental +0.481987 · Tony Elliott · incremental +0.601987 · Hoby Brenner · incremental +0.621987 · Morten Andersen · incremental +0.921987 · Brad Edelman · incremental +1.001987 · Jumpy Geathers · incremental -0.011987 · Dave Waymer · incremental -0.571988 · John Tice · incremental +0.081988 · Stan Brock · incremental +0.101988 · Frank Warren · incremental +0.171988 · Dave Waymer · incremental +0.261988 · Brad Edelman · incremental +0.331988 · Steve Korte · incremental +0.371988 · Morten Andersen · incremental +0.431988 · Joel Hilgenberg · incremental +0.441988 · Tony Elliott · incremental +0.541988 · Rickey Jackson · incremental +0.571988 · Hoby Brenner · incremental +0.581988 · Jumpy Geathers · incremental -0.901989 · Steve Korte · incremental +0.101989 · John Tice · incremental +0.121989 · Frank Warren · incremental +0.181989 · Brad Edelman · incremental +0.221989 · Stan Brock · incremental +0.251989 · Dave Waymer · incremental +0.361989 · Hoby Brenner · incremental +0.371989 · Rickey Jackson · incremental +0.481989 · Joel Hilgenberg · incremental +0.551989 · Morten Andersen · incremental -0.331989 · Jumpy Geathers · incremental -1.691990 · John Tice · incremental +0.141990 · Stan Brock · incremental +0.241990 · Hoby Brenner · incremental +0.381990 · Joel Hilgenberg · incremental +0.591990 · Rickey Jackson · incremental +0.621990 · Morten Andersen · incremental -0.471991 · John Tice · incremental +0.101991 · Frank Warren · incremental +0.181991 · Stan Brock · incremental +0.251991 · Hoby Brenner · incremental +0.381991 · Joel Hilgenberg · incremental +0.561991 · Rickey Jackson · incremental +1.311991 · Morten Andersen · incremental -0.471992 · John Tice · incremental +0.031992 · Frank Warren · incremental +0.181992 · Morten Andersen · incremental +0.221992 · Stan Brock · incremental +0.251992 · Hoby Brenner · incremental +0.331992 · Rickey Jackson · incremental +1.431992 · Joel Hilgenberg · incremental +1.461993 · Frank Warren · incremental +0.091993 · Hoby Brenner · incremental +0.221993 · Joel Hilgenberg · incremental +0.341993 · Rickey Jackson · incremental +1.361993 · Morten Andersen · incremental -0.471994 · Frank Warren · incremental +0.171994 · Morten Andersen · incremental -0.33Waymer -1.1Brock -14.6Waymer +0.3Rogers +1.7Jackson -1.7Warren -2.1Boyarsky -2.9Waymer +0.2Andersen -4.9Waymer +0.4Waymer +0.3Geathers -2.0Hoage -2.9Waymer +0.3Hoage -4.0Waymer +0.4Waymer -0.6Waymer +0.3Waymer +0.4Geathers -1.719805 players198113 players198218 players198321 players198425 players198520 players198616 players198713 players198812 players198911 players19906 players19917 players19927 players19935 players19942 players
Above expectationBelow expectationDave WaymerGM total -6.3Dave Waymer by season +0.9

How much retained production did Dave Waymer return vs. his slot?

Each mark below is one player's model value above slot. Light gray marks are slot-similar peers: DBs drafted within ±5 picks of Dave Waymer since 2010 (15 players).The score is the retained production/value bucket from the pick-residual model: on-team AV plus AV-rate quality, adjusted for draft slot, position, and era. Opportunity snaps and league honors are excluded.

-0.50+0.5+1Model value above slot38. WardT.J. Ward · model value +1.440. DeJeanCooper DeJean · model value +1.142. LassiterKamari Lassiter · model value +141. WaymerDave Waymer · model value +0.8+0.845. BranchBrian Branch · model value +0.645. MooreRahim Moore · model value +0.537. AllenNate Allen · model value +0.141. McKinstryKool-Aid McKinstry · model value +0.136. SlayDarius Slay · model value +0.144. BrentsJulius Brents · model value -0.143. BanksJohnthan Banks · model value -0.340. GrantRichie Grant · model value -0.541. JoynerLamarcus Joyner · model value -0.539. JenkinsJackrabbit Jenkins · model value -0.643. MeltonMax Melton · model value -0.744. JosephKelvin Joseph · model value -0.7
Dave WaymerSlot-similar peers (15)

Cumulative value over time

Year-by-year running totals since draft. Left axis = games started. Right axis = honors (Pro Bowl / AP1 / AP2). Pre-2013 picks have no games-started line because that comes from per-game snap counts (not available for older players). Honors extend back to 1980.

'80'82'84'86'88'90'920397811615501Cumulative GSHonors count
Games started (cumulative) Pro Bowls AP1 All-Pro AP2 All-Pro

Full-career season history (13 scored seasons)

YearTeamGPGSSnapsSnap-zAVAV/snapPBAP1AP2
1980NO16103
1981NO16136
1982NO998
1983NO16168
1984NO16166
1985NO16154
1986NO16159
1987NO121214·
1988NO1695
1989NO16167
1990SF1697
1991SF16159
1992LV1601

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